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Red Band Rant: Nerds Are Ruining Hollywood

By Mack Rawden: 2008-08-27 01:36:48
Red Band Rant: Nerds Are Ruining Hollywood You know what I loved? High School. Sure, it sucks in almost every conceivable, totalitarian way, but it’s four years of chaotic, beautiful turbulence: you get a driver’s license, you play sports, you get thrown out of class for swearing, you get A’s, you get F’s, you crash your car into fire hydrants, you smoke pot for the first time, you binge drink, you make out with sophomore girls in a shady hotel room showers, you read The Great Gatsby like ninety-two times, and you get to see your best friends every single day for six-and-a-half hours.

Wait. Nevermind. I forgot--admitting you enjoyed high school at all is tantamount to excluding every twenty-something white douche bag who still harbors a grudge because someone somewhere called him a pussy a few times during those formative years. Well, grow a fucking sack, you pussy. High School wasn’t that bad, and it’s because of whiny-ass, overly P.C. sad sacks of shit that I’ve had to endure this deluge of high school movies and TV shows from a goddamn nerd point of view. Superbad. Freaks And Geeks. Mr. Woodcock. Is anyone else sick of dweeb protagonists complaining about getting hit with dodge balls? I am. Picking off the fat kid isn’t even mean--it’s Natural Selection, motherfuckers.

Why is it that every single goddamn high school movie now is about unathletic, unpopular, undesirables weaseling their way into a roll in the hay with the most beautiful girl at school? That’s not even an admirable goal. Most of the cheerleader types are vapid vortexes of slutiness and stupid opinions. Always go for the Brittany Murphy--she’s ascending--not the Alicia Silverstone--she’s at her apex.

So, why is this happening? I think most people just prefer remembering themselves as the underdog, which is categorically hilarious since everyone’s goal in high school is too vault their way atop the social podium. Selective memory, baby. When you were fourteen, you would have stolen a Bunsen Burner to be universally liked, and that is closer to an understatement than an overstatement. Sure, retroactively we smile and root for Sam Weir to kiss Cindy Sanders in between fourth and fifth period, but back in the day, most of us were probably closer to Romy White or Slater from Dazed And Confused--not the coolest kid on the block but not a walking punch line either.

It’s not even as if I hate these movies. Superbad was hilarious. I smiled with McLovin and I laughed at Jonah Hill and his penis-drawing obsession, but this whole worship-the-losers brand of comedy is getting out of hand. When Bill Murray and Gilda Radner dressed up as nerds on Saturday Night Live, it was refreshing to see how the other half behaved. Hell, it was even a little exciting when John Hughes turned dweeb exploits into a goddamn franchises in the mid-80s, but it’s quickly getting stale and obvious. When’s David Wooderson’s turn to take the lead?

I get it. Most teenagers secretly despise the most popular kids and kinda want to go Christian Slater in Heathers on their gorgeous asses---but more than that, they want to hang out with them. Most people don’t view it from the bottom. They see it from the side. That’s why American Pie will live on forever. It’s the only movie in recent memory which gave us a group of guys who weren’t the epitome of popular--but also weren’t shoved into toilets.

We need more Mallrats and less Nick And Norah’s Infinite Playlist. And that’s not going to happen until most people look in the fucking mirror and remember what high school was truly like--a roller coast of ups and downs, cries and smiles, and times of both popularity and unpopularity.


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  1. Q-dog Says:

    so, this moron wants a series of movies made about being the jock fuckwit who was too stupid to understand that his freinds were in fact likely to be taken out by natural selection faster than the nerds, geeks and fat kids because they were more likely to be drink driving and catching amazing venerial diseases.

    the fact that he himself hasn't is something of a miracle in itself.

    the reason we are getting so many of the revenge of the nerd style films these days is for a simple as fuck reason. the nerds won you ignorant stain.

    we're the fuckers making the films and telling our stories... the meathead knuckle dragging retards who did so well in college football are now the trailer park dwelling rejects who think american idol is the bees knees and will possibly outbreed us all.... if idiocracy is anything to go by.

    hell, in high school i did ok, i was kinda in the middle there, i wasn't being beaten shitless, nor was i making the popular list or playing tonsil hockey with the prom queen. i was there. i now am an out and proud geek. so geek films are just fucking fine by me.

    if you don't want to see more geeks and their high school exploits, fuck you, stop whining and learn how to make movies yourself.

  1. Jeff W. Says:

    Yeah, I don't understand this editorial at all. Perhaps the author had a wonderful high school experience (a Ferris Beuller-type?), but why would movies about "nerds" anger the author? That would be like writing a diatribe about movies that glorify jocks (e.g. Rudy). Everything comes in waves (e.g., Asian horror movies) and the current popular wave is "Revenge of the Nerds". The author's rant makes little sense. At any given time there are many, many films playing at the movie theater and only a very small percentage of them have to do with nerd-revenge subject matter. However, if these kinds of films bother the author, don't worry, in 6 months or so some other genre will be popular and the author can rest easy. If you don't like nerd-revenge films, here's an idea, don't watch them. I hate musicals, and guess what, I never watch them. This doesn't mean that Mamma Mia's current popularity causes me to lose sleep at night.

  1. uncle not clever Says:

    "the reason we are getting so many of the revenge of the nerd style films these days is for a simple as fuck reason. the nerds won you ignorant stain."


    HA! how very astute and poignant. in a nerdy sort of way.

    'ignorant stain'. best idiotic comeback i've heard in the last ten minutes.



    anyway, nice rant, Mr. Rawden. keep 'em coming our way!

  1. Bob Says:

    Wow, you didn't read that article at all did you? Also, you didn't need to tell anyone you were an average student in high school as your spelling and punctuation took care of that for anyone questioning it.

    He's just saying that there's more to a high school movie than making Drillbit Taylor. While those movies can be entertaining, the majority of people that enjoy them just think, "Oh yeah, I was victim. Fight the power!" In actuality, they probably were just like most other people in the middle somewhere.

    He's got nothing against the unfortunate lower rung of high school society, but Hollywood can take a breather and maybe make another movie with an average character before churning out Juno 2.

  1. The Dude Says:

    Yup. Pretty much what Q-dog says. It's written because the nerds are the ones with money. For every rich athlete (who are not typically known for diverging into other fields) there's ten or twenty rich nerds, or nerds in places of power.

    Technology makes the world go around.

  1. Zevorick Says:

    You know, you’re so right. Nerds are taking over Hollywood. We should get rid of anything soiled by those insipid nerds and geeks.

    Star Wars? Well that’s just right out the window.
    Lord of The Rings? Gone
    Star Trek? Please
    Every fantasy/sci fi movie in existence? Gone
    Superhero movies? Yeah right!
    Comic Book character movies? Who needs X-Men, Spiderman, Superman, Elektra, Daredevil, Hellboy, Batman, and Iron Man.
    Jim Carey? Closet Nerd and open Geek
    Samuel L Jackson? Well he was in Star Wars so F him!
    Anyone in Hollywood with a degree? Who needs educated actors/actresses!

    Wait… what’s left? Oh, that’s right. Everything by Dane Cook… dang. Curse those insipid nerds with their hard work, dedication, creativity, and hard earned money. Curse them!

    Nerds BUILT Hollywood. Without “drama dorks” there would be no actors or directors. Without the AV club there would be no producers and film crew. No Band Nerds? Goodbye orchestra scored.. nay ANY music. Get real. If you don’t want to see movies based on nerddom… then don’t buy a movie ticket. It really is that simple

  1. Tommy_G Says:

    I have a lot of fond memories of high school. Loved the socialization, my peers and the pecking order. Never got to date a prom queen or a cheerleader, but I got to date a lot of pretty girls. Never was a great jock, but did make the varsity. Wasn't the best student, but wasn't the worst. Even made it into college.

    All in all, it was a great time. Some day I will even go to a reunion to see what has happened to everybody.

    I too am tired of all these "geek-to-sheik" movies. Never remember anything like that even remotely happening while I was in high school. Nice to see someone out there actually trying to debunk these silly myths.

    One last thing, I capitalized my words correctly and didn't swear once. I learned this in high school.

  1. Slater Says:

    I found this article to be categorically hilarious.

  1. PEDRO the KING Says:

    YOU BUNCH OF DORKS!

  1. KarateLobster Says:

    I have goats in my pants.

  1. J.B Says:

    dude nerds and losers who bitch and moan about stuff make good movies no one wants to watch a flick where some preppy douche jock gets everything he wants in the end because thats highschool itself and dont be useing natural selection for an excuse to pick on the fat kid most nerds and smart kids are either freakishly fat ands skinny and the jocks usaully end up pumping the gas of the fat nerd 5 or 10 years after high school

  1. Matt Says:

    Attention losers, dorks, and geeks. Just because somebody was a jock didn't mean they were a mean asshole to you. However, just because you were a social pariah didn't mean you were so sweet and innocent. I seem to remember that most if not all school shootings were perpetuated by social misfits. Get over your damn self. It isn't being a jock or being nerd that defines your character. It was the person. And frankly, I can tell by the comments that too many of the losers of the world still can't get over how they were treated in high school. Grow up and put on your big girl panties. Life sucks. Get used to it. Stop whining like a dejected bitch.

  1. Zevorick Says:

    @Matt
    So, you go from trying to tell people to stop relying on group identities then lambast people with a "them vs us" mentality? Logic called, she says she misses you and wants you to call her back.

    I do, however, think one ignorant statement you made needs to be corrected. "I seem to remember that most if not all school shootings were perpetuated by social misfits". You're... so ignorant that I can hardly believe you wrote this. Do you have any idea why they would be social outcasts? It isn't because they're geeks who are "tired of being picked on and bullied". It's because these people have clinical psychological disorders that MAKE them outcasts due to their thinking and behavior. It has been well documented in roughly 85% of media highlighted cases that perpetuators of school violence have a pre existing psychological condition. Believe it or not, there are very few people who will hang around someone with extreme paranoia, random bouts of aggression, grandiouse, illogical, and egotistical thinking, schizophrenia, or a laundry list of other maladaptive thought patterns.

    Don't rely on the "bitter nerd" excuse when someone goes on a rampage. Instead take it for what it really is, a person who is mentally disturbed acting on their impulses and NOT on music, video games, or social rejection.

  1. Klaus Says:

    You people are all douchebags.

    Movies about nerds are popular right now because they put asses in seats, and that's really what movie studios and movie theaters and content producers care about.

    Whining that the loser-makes-good story is overplayed is about as useful as grousing about the earth-is-doomed-apocalypse-oh-noes story, which movie theaters have been littered with since the mid-90s and well into the current decade -- starting with Independence Day, through Armageddon, Godzilla, The Day After Tomorrow, The Core, and a whole dump truck full of crappy retreads -- studios and producers pick ideas they think are winners, and we, the movie-going public, validate or invalidate their hunches.

    Okay, sure, you had fun in school, I had some too ... but the experience itself was not enough to make me wistful, and it certainly wasn't anywhere near as entertaining as my twenties -- disposable income, independence, illicit drugs, women, travel -- high school's a low-rent knock-off. I'm also clever enough to have realized that high school is itself an artificial social millieu that for most people comes at the most awkward time in their lives (hello, puberty!), and seeing it through misty eyes as the glory days of youth is not an experience everyone else shared.

    Maybe it's just that the pendulum has swung a little bit in the other direction, from the days when people who liked computers or didn't want to be on the football team were all seen as ugly four-eyed friendless chronic masturbators, to something more normal -- a little unsure, maybe naive, but pretty normal and just trying to make a go of it like everyone else.

    For the nerds out there who got picked on in high school, rising to bait like this is just proof that the dickheads on the football team got to you then and still know how to push your buttons. If you're so goddamn smart, why do you keep falling for their lame mind games?

    ... and if you're the type who thought high school was more of a destination than a place of transition and you're cranky that what's hot in film and television right now doesn't speak to you, well -- man up, Nancy -- youtube's free, digital cameras are cheap, and ideas don't cost a thing. If you don't like what everyone else has to offer, offer something better -- or STFU and sit down. Nobody likes a sore loser.

  1. Ryan Says:

    Klaus just wrecked all of you.

    Such is the internet nowadays though. When the internet first started it was about people all over the world being able to connect, and it was all about emails and chatrooms. Now it has become the Blogosphere, where angry, bitter people who are under the assumption that people give a flying fuck about their opinions come to bitch and whine about whatever random thing pops into their miserable heads.

  1. fuck you Says:

    you're all pathetic. i hope you all die.

  1. Matt Says:

    Thanks for proving my point, Zevorick. Go back to hating the world because you didn't get to go to the prom. Whaaa. Some people are social misfits because they lack the ability to get along with groups. You are clearly one.

  1. Stuart Says:

    I've never seen such a comment bank so full of apologists and whining martyrs.

    There was no clear cut divide of castes in my high school. It was a sliding scale of interconnecting groups. Yes there were the pure jocks, the pure nerds, the pure slackers, but they were all the minority. The rest of us all occupied some grey zone in between. Nerds who hung with slackers. Slackers who hung with jocks, nerds who hung with jocks. Little pockets of different groups who all knew members of the other. Rather than be purely ostrasized by the other groups as this nonsense would have you believe, people who fell more in to one groups still hung around the periphery of other groups. Never fully being part of the other group, but never being fully excluded or brow-beaten either.

    But I guess that was just my school, right. I pity all you idiots who would rather boast of your self-appointed label of the Hollywoodised high school caste system than face up to the much more mundane but much more palatable truth.

    Don't ride Bill Gates coattails while working in Wal-Mart, proclaiming nerds rulers of the world. Don't proclaim jocks as dipshit apes. Don't announce that slackers were all pot smoking retards.

    Two nerds founded two of the biggest IT companies in the planet, not the whole movement.
    One jock currently sits as the most powerful man in the world.
    Another jock and a pot-head are battling it out to become the most powerful man in the world.

    What the fuck are you and what are you doing? If you've left school and are still living your life by the label appointed to you or which you decided to appoint yourself during high school then your a pretty fucked up and narrow-minded sociopath.

    Most real grown-ups move on to just be people like anyone else. Plain and simple. Get over yourselves.

  1. Michael Says:

    He has a point. I'm getting really, really tired of seeing the nerds always come out on top. In real life, this doesn't happen. In real life, the popular folks always come out on top. "Yeah, well we'll be your boss in ten years," whine the nerds everytime somebody calls them out on being total losers. Guess what, you idiots. It's possible to be smart and get good grades without being a socially maladjusted moron. Maybe if you stopped bringing your katanas and foxtails to class, people wouldn't think you're a freak. You bring it all on yourself. I like The Matrix, but that doesn't mean I walk around High School with a trenchcoat and sunglasses. I also liked Pokémon when I was younger, but that doesn't mean I wore Pikachu shirts and Charizard shoes all around the school. If I did, I would have been laughed at, and rightfully so. It's downright shameful. Sorry if you think raging against the machine by wearing cat ears to school is being original and edgy and unique, but everybody else is laughing at you and your complete lack of common sense. The only statement you are making is that you're a weak-minded bandwagon-jumper who can't handle rightfully-earned spite and criticism. Try acting normally. Leave your shameful nerdy hobbies for home, and stop hanging out with unfunny video game nerds. You'd be surprised how much this does for your reputation. "I don't care what other people think of me, I am what I am, so don't try to change me!" cries a nerd every time somebody tells them they're a loser. Well, again, I don't go around impersonating Neo, and that's because it's just a dumb thing to do. Yes, this is technically conforming, and I know nerds absolutely hate the idea of that, but it's really not that bad. You make more friends, get more respect, and you can still pursue whatever nerdish hobbies you have when you get home. Win-win situation. Just stop wearing your World of Warcraft shirts for a week, wash that disgusting black crap out of your hair, stop ruining your eyes with eyeliner, wear clothes that aren't so ugly, and you'll notice an improvement in the way people judge you.

    And if you all have any doubt that I am/was a nerd, just look at the way I write. Grammar. Punctuation. Spelling. Vocabulary. Only a nerd would go through such great lengths to make their Internet messages so tidy. I am/was a nerd, and I have no problem with that. I kept my nerdy pleasures to myself in High School, and nobody ever gave me a hard time because I never had anything outstanding about myself to criticize. I went home and watched all the Matrix and played all the Fire Emblem I wanted, but I felt no need to drag out my shameful guilty pleasures to school, and my High School experience was much better for it. I was average. I don't have a persecution complex because nobody ever persecuted me unjustly. I can't be the only one, though; indeed, I'd dare to say most High Schoolers are in that area. There are a select few psychos in the fringe society, and there are a couple of extremely popular people. Everybody else is fairly unremarkable. But, of course, everybody wants to play the victim. Everybody wants the attention and the pity. Get over yourselves. It's just High School. It's four years of school you'll forget about the moment you walk out the door for the last time. Just chill out and live them up; you're not going to find four years like that ever again, so might as well enjoy them as best you can instead of crying wolf everytime somebody says something even the slightest bit disparaging against you.

  1. Jerry Says:

    Picking on the fat kid is not "natural selection." That is "unnatural selection." When the fat kid finally snaps from your abuse and shoots you and ten other people, that is also "unnatural selection."

  1. Mack Says:

    Jerry,

    I was talking about picking on the fat kid during dodgeball. That is natural selection.

  1. God Says:

    Klaus and Stuart are clearly the only two with brains that have posted so far.

    btw - this has to be probably the dumbest statement that I have seen in quite some time:

    "Some people are social misfits because they lack the ability to get along with groups."

    Do you mean that some people don't get along with other people because they don't know how to get along with other people? Wow...you are a f*cking genious man...seriously.

    I also love this one:

    "you're a weak-minded bandwagon-jumper who can't handle rightfully-earned spite and criticism."

    You mean like a douche defending a bandwagon-jumper complaining about movies that are spiteful and criticize his bandwagon?

    Seriously, this has to be one of the dumbest conversations that I have ever seen. Jocks abandon individuality in order to follow a trend - same as nerds. You are really one in the same...get the f*ck over it. p.s fark rules.

  1. Fred Palowaski Says:

    NNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDS!!

  1. Q-dog Says:

    ok, can of worms opened. Wasn't expecting to be the first one to make comment there. wow.

    well, my little rant really kinda came from a cold read of an article that pushed the buttons that haven't really been pushed since high school days.

    Bob, i did read the article and i can see what mr Rawden is saying... i just don't agree with it. The thing i am truly terrified of is that i'm going to see a wave of films about the popular kids who manage to get everything going for them. Or even worse, try to make us feel something for them. ahhh. the plight of the good looking popular kid....

    hmmm. Juno 2..... not too sure if that film fits into the category of nerd film... or does it? are well written witty interesting characters automatically nerds? meh.

    i will admit that "ignorant stain" was not the best insult i've ever used... i was going to use ignorant fuck stain... but that just seemed a little too harsh.

    As a matter of interest there are films that focus on the upper echelon and "normal kids" of high school... they are the sporting underdog movies but more than that.... they are the HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL FRANCHISE.

    Thats what happens when you focus on the normal or popular kids. Everyone sings a lot and Disney makes more money than god herself.

  1. Coach Harris Says:

    You know, when you were a baby in your crib, your father looked down at you, he had but one hope - some day my son will grow to be a man. Well look at you now. You just got your asses whipped by a bunch of goddamn nerds. Nerds! Well, if I was you, I'd do something about it. I would get up and redeem myself in the eyes of my father, my maker, and my coach!

  1. Darth Tater Says:

    Christ the stereotypes OMGZ. And on top of it hasn't anyone heard that fighting with a keyboard is like the Special Olympics, even if you win your still a retard.All of you need to find something better to do.For example i intend to take my kid to school this morning. Honestly who cares about someones rant who obviously is way to wrapped up in the nostalgia of youth who cares what you were then its all about who and what you are now. For example i was a geek/newwaver who got along with everyone.Now I'm just a father and husband.Instead of ranting up and down about stupid movies (ineffectually i might add)go spend sometime with your kid or if you must argue, argue about something that matters Darfur comes to mind as well as multitude of other subjects the, War in Iraq, the situation stewing in Russia and among its neighbors.I honestly have trouble seeing why so many people seem to have to look for some inane reason to argue with all the worthwhile subjects out there. To be honest seems some of the people in this thread ( to be honest the majority ) never made it out of high school or at the very least act as if the haven't. For those who haven't kept up with current events here are some things worth arguing about price of gas/energy etc., housing bubble popping,the fact that Amy Winehouse looks like farking Skeletor seriously that it cant be normal to look like that.I mean seriously as far as the whole geek vs. jock thing goes if the horse wasnt dead already, its sure been beat to death by you lot.


    Tater

  1. Lost Boy Says:

    Awwww, poor baby.

    Face it, jock boy: Nerds are hot, Nerds are now, Nerds are it. More and more hotties are finding out what should have been blazingly obvious to anyone with half a brain: Nerds make better lovers, both in and out of the sack.

    Have you seen Wil Wheaton's wife? Yeah, Wesley freakin' Crusher has a hotter wife than most of your kind.

    You know what I like to do? I like to look back at my senior class' wills from 12 years ago and see what they wanted to be doing now. Know what most of your bretheren had? Playing for some NFL team. Know how many of them reached that goal? Zero. Know how many reached the goal of even playing NCAA I sports? Zero. Most ended up in the same low-level schools their families went to. Sure, the smart ones made it to the bigger schools, but no pigskin dreams, sorry.

    Meanwhile, me, the Geek Boy, had 'be the lead singer of an awesome band and make cash with computers.' And guess which one I'm doing a ton of? BOTH! HA! Not only are my nerdly qualities making me a very decent living, but I'm lighting up the stage as the front man of one of my area's most popular heavy rock bands.

    So yeah, now it follows that cinema is going to attach itself to the heroes of the day. Sad part for you? You and your kind aren't the hero anymore. You're what you always should have been: Either the villain outright, or the oafish comic relief.

    Way to take one for the team. Now, get out there and make the geeks laugh, jock boy...

  1. Xander Crews Says:

    Okay then, Mack. You want:
    -A peppy, ubeat portrayal of grades nine through twelve
    -A large cast of popular kids
    -A plot that does not involve an unpopular person attempting to get laid

    I can only gather that this is an endorsement for the originality and excellent writing of High School Musical.

  1. MUBIGSEXY Says:

    I could not have said this better myself! Hollywood, and society in general, is being ruined by these jelly fish, no spine losers, that call themselves men! I hope your kind will die off soon! Survival of the fittest!! Haha, lets hope that proves to be true, because you guys would be done for!

    -The Stud

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